Need to find air filter and housing
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Author: Yukon
Date: 7 Dec 2006 5:17 pm
Hi all
I seem to have a delema here. My machine is lacking an air filter and I can't figure out what I need. I have a very small amount of clearance between the housing and the carb, it looks to be machine specific rather then motor specific. Seems to be between 1.5 and 1.75 inches (the 1.75 is MAX and may still hit) (see pic)
My motor is an older Tecumseh HM80-155137C SER 6246D and I am unsure which carb I have. Judging by the throat, looks like same mounting for either carb I saw that seems to match this one.
My machine is the Craftsman 8/26 c944-52750 (I was informed here that it was a Noma Canadiana series). Any help would be greatly appreciated!
And it needs to be packed into here.... (see pic) Note: the muffler is off but it is the L shaped muffler not a round one. It takes up the real estate in that top opening, so the airfilter won't bolt on front and lay on top of carb.
This is what my carb looks like from the front. To me, it looks like only a mini type filter and housing is required (see pic)
Thanks in advance
Author: OldToroOwner
Date: 7 Dec 2006 5:22 pm
Why does your machine need an air filter??....
:? :thinking:
Author: whitedog
Date: 7 Dec 2006 5:29 pm
if i am not mistaken...
snowblowers do not have air filters.
winter and snow = little or no dust
snow will clog air filters
Author: launboy
Date: 7 Dec 2006 5:33 pm
I'm not sure about your exact model, but generally snowthrowers don't have airfilters because of the lack of dust and dirt when snowblowing...
Yours may be different, but all of the ones I've ever seen dont have an airfilter, just a metal thing the goes on in place of it (see pic)
It's the thing thats on the end of the carb where the air goes in (kind of U shaper
Author: Yukon
Date: 7 Dec 2006 5:40 pm
Thanks for the input, I guess I am used to summer ope's (my first snowblower) I just assumed all carbs needed an air filter... but if you guys say they generaly don't have or need them on a snowblower (which makes sence with the lack of dust)... thats good enough for me... one less thing for me to worry about :D
Author: mrmom
Date: 7 Dec 2006 6:09 pm
OldToroOwner wrote:
Why does your machine need an air filter??....
:? :thinking:
LOL! OTO you crack me up.
Ditto what everybody else says.... no air filters on snowblowers
Author: dave___in___ct
Date: 7 Dec 2006 6:38 pm
To my knowledge... snowblowers do not have air filters... but rather a housing to cover the carburator area...
My new Ariens snowthrower's Briggs and Stratton engine does NOT have an air filter...
Dave...
Author: Yukon
Date: 7 Dec 2006 10:12 pm
dave___in___ct wrote:
To my knowledge... snowblowers do not have air filters... but rather a housing to cover the carburator area...
Well, I don't have the housing cover, but I'm going to assume that it can't be overly important wether it is there or not for now at least.
Once again I appreciate everyones input
Author: luvthesnow
Date: 7 Dec 2006 10:32 pm
Yukon wrote:
Well, I don't have the housing cover, but I'm going to assume that it can't be overly important wether it is there or not for now at least.
Once again I appreciate everyones input
You do have the cover. It's in your pics above, the one with the warning decal on it. The throttle cable goes through the slot on it.....It shrouds the carb from snow dust and lets it intake somewhat warmer air that blows from the engine and the hot muffler as well..............
Author: Yukon
Date: 7 Dec 2006 10:45 pm
luvthesnow wrote:
Yukon wrote:
Well, I don't have the housing cover, but I'm going to assume that it can't be overly important wether it is there or not for now at least.
Once again I appreciate everyones input
You do have the cover. It's in your pics above, the one with the warning decal on it. The throttle cable goes through the slot on it.....It shrouds the carb from snow dust and lets it intake somewhat warmer air that blows from the engine and the hot muffler as well..............
Nod, I do have that cover, I think the cover dave___in___ct was talking about is that metal piece shown in launboy's pic above. Either way, I'm not going to worry about it any as I don't see how that piece of metal will protect the carb from debri.
I think it may just be a bracket to secure the main housing now that I think of it. My housing secures through a bracket on the side of my carb as well as the engine block.
Author: sonofjabba
Date: 7 Dec 2006 10:48 pm
Outboards are similar to Snow King's they only use a Spark Arrestor on the them. They are used in Low Dust/Dirt environments so they don't require a filter.
Look at it this way.. One less thing to replace! :D
Author: luvthesnow
Date: 7 Dec 2006 10:50 pm
Yukon wrote:
Nod, I do have that cover, I think the cover dave___in___ct was talking about is that metal piece shown in launboy's pic above. Either way, I'm not going to worry about it any as I don't see how that piece of metal will protect the carb from debri.
I think it may just be a bracket to secure the main housing now that I think of it. My housing secures through a bracket on the side of my carb as well as the engine block.
Got ya. Yes, that is for bolting the sheet metal on............
Author: Majorxlr8n
Date: 7 Dec 2006 11:54 pm
luvthesnow wrote:
Yukon wrote:
Nod, I do have that cover, I think the cover dave___in___ct was talking about is that metal piece shown in launboy's pic above. Either way, I'm not going to worry about it any as I don't see how that piece of metal will protect the carb from debri.
I think it may just be a bracket to secure the main housing now that I think of it. My housing secures through a bracket on the side of my carb as well as the engine block.
Got ya. Yes, that is for bolting the sheet metal on............
AND it used to be the mounting pad for the PRIMER, a push button device that was a second "choke" of sorts - it would ENTIRELY block the air intake port & pull in fuel only for a quick, cold start. A current choke plate only blocks about 3/4 of the air opening when activated.
Also - another reason for a lack of an air filter is that the air cleaner can trap moisture, freeze up, and effectively choke the engine from getting air.
Marty