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Date: 9 Sep 2006 9:30 pm
sometimes lately when I go to reply to a post, when I click the button, it goes back to "all the threads" page.....over and over?????
What's up with that??????
Frank D.
Date: 9 Sep 2006 10:28 pm
Frank, pardon the repeat, and cross examination, but I want to make sure I understand it whats happening....
So your reading a message, and then you hit the reply button to post a reply.
Instead of going to the "post a reply" page, you get kicked back to the list of threads where the message was?
(Or the forum's main page?)
And when you say over and over, it just keeps reloading, as if you were hitting the refresh button on the browser?
Or you keep trying to reply and each time you just get kicked back to the same spot?
edit...
At the time of this happening, when you were going from one thread or from one area to another as you were reading different threads, were the pages changing (loading) at a normal or near normal pace?
Date: 10 Sep 2006 6:39 am
Sorry,
It sometimes when I click reply, it instead goes to either the general chat forum or the outdoor power equipment forum......whereever the threadwas that you wanted to reply to.
It only happens here, and just within the last few days, so I don't think it is on my end, but I wouldn't know, all I know how to do is "click"... :lol:
It did it once today......
Frank D.
Date: 10 Sep 2006 9:56 am
Must be the Mac.
:wink:
Date: 10 Sep 2006 11:01 am
faithfulFrank wrote:
Sorry,
It sometimes when I click reply, it instead goes to either the general chat forum or the outdoor power equipment forum......whereever the threadwas that you wanted to reply to.
It only happens here, and just within the last few days, so I don't think it is on my end, but I wouldn't know, all I know how to do is "click"... :lol:
It did it once today......
Frank D.
I gottacha now Frank. Uhmm, Usually it's the cookies that direct you back and around to places. So that would be my 1st suspicion.
Have you tried clearing out your cookies and browser cache?
I was hoping to hear that it hadn't happened again. I found a few unclosed sessions and a few other house keeping issues that I took care of last night. I have no way to tie them to a user, but was hoping maybe one or two of them maybe were tied to your account. But I guess not since you still see it. So try the cookies and cache.
Date: 10 Sep 2006 8:30 pm
I emptied my cookies and deleted them all.
I do not know where to find my cache.....I vaguely remember that as a windows thing....do I have that??
MARSHALL..........I knew you would say that.......you are a very bad man..... :D
My 4 year old mac still works better for a novice like me than any windoze computer ever did..... :D :D
Although I am starting to drool over some of the newer MACS...my oldest son wants/needs soon a new macbookPro for his graphic design....I might take his old powerbook....and I just bought another powerbook for my other son off ebay this week.....CAN'T WAIT!!!! They are things of beauty.
Frank D.
Date: 10 Sep 2006 10:25 pm
faithfulFrank wrote:
I emptied my cookies and deleted them all.
I do not know where to find my cache.....I vaguely remember that as a windows thing....do I have that??
In your internet browser, your "temporary internet files". I don't know where they are in the menu of mac browser, my time on a mac was limited to work not really using a browser. Sorry don't know where the button is exactly to delete them.
faithfulFrank wrote:
MARSHALL..........I knew you would say that.......you are a very bad man..... :D
LOL- yea I wasn't touching that with a 10ft pole.
Mac or PC, A browser is a browser to the forum software!
faithfulFrank wrote:
Although I am starting to drool over some of the newer MACS...my oldest son wants/needs soon a new macbookPro for his graphic design....I might take his old powerbook....and I just bought another powerbook for my other son off ebay this week.....CAN'T WAIT!!!! They are things of beauty.
Frank D.
The prices are nice on the new mac books too.
I researched some knowledge bases for this problem and came up totally dry.
I did house keeping on the data base the other night after I read your post... But you still saw the problem once, which is enough.
The next assumption would be the cookies and temp internet files, since the buttons use these through java commands to send you to and from the "right" places.. which isn't happening for you all the time.
My only other question, which we didn't really cover, when it happens to you, does the board seem slow? So like, when you see the board is slow, you can maybe anticipate it will happen to you? Or does it seem the forum/board is switching pages fine and it's just out of the blue?
I see we've had 27 views, so some others are looking at the thread.. see if others chime in with the same problem?
Mac or PC, we are all accessing the same code, same functionality. The board works the same way for all of us.
If clearing your cookies and temp internet files doesn't do it, I'll post a Q on the help forum for the board software and see if I can get some more ideas.
Date: 11 Sep 2006 8:23 am
Dear Ramit,
Of coarse, I just chicked the safari drop down menu, and there it was, "empty cashe".......duh.
I did not do it yet, because it said that I could, but it may slwo down getting some of the info for websites. It does not seem to be doing it today, an interminient thing.
One thing i did change, I do not know if it matters, is that ever since we came over here, I had this site bookmarked using those numbers and dots instead of www.oponthenet.com, because that is what we were doing the first week or so, remember?
I just re-bookmarked it to the regular way now. None of this is really a big deal, i'll keep you posted. as soon as my son gets this "new" powerbook, This "old" G-4 will be ALL MINE...so i'll have more space, etc. things should be even better.
Thanks, frank D.
Date: 11 Sep 2006 9:08 am
faithfulFrank wrote:
Dear Ramit,
Of coarse, I just chicked the safari drop down menu, and there it was, "empty cashe".......duh.
I did not do it yet, because it said that I could, but it may slwo down getting some of the info for websites. It does not seem to be doing it today, an interminient thing.
One thing i did change, I do not know if it matters, is that ever since we came over here, I had this site bookmarked using those numbers and dots instead of www.oponthenet.com, because that is what we were doing the first week or so, remember?
I just re-bookmarked it to the regular way now. None of this is really a big deal, i'll keep you posted. as soon as my son gets this "new" powerbook, This "old" G-4 will be ALL MINE...so i'll have more space, etc. things should be even better.
Thanks, frank D.
The reason is says that it may slow down your browsing, is that the browser first attempts to build the page from info already on your harddrive... instead of downloading it from the website. And why some sites say something like , "if your not seeing the updates, make sure to hit your refresh button".
Now that and your other observation, adds up to make some sense.....
Ah.... very good info Frank.
Yes, and more correctly you should bookmark,
www.opeonthenet.com
(add the www in there)
If you type in either opeonthenet.com or www.opeonthenet.com, you will get the website homepage. BUT, more correctly yes there are settings in the forum's configuration where it uses the domain name (not the IP address). So once we got the domain name here, I changed everything to correctly use the domain name.. BUT again it uses the www.opeonthenet.com, it by default adds the www. It seems like a minor things, but computers and software are detail oriented, this stuff doesn't have fuzzy logic like humans. We think close enough, our machines just want the right answer out to 64bits.
I would clear your cache. You have broadband if I remember correctly.. so downloading new caches of the sites you visit wont be slow. If you had dialup, yup, it maybe painful for a day or two. But I doubt you'll see the difference. And if you haven't cleared your cache in years, you may actually see things speed up since your browser won't have to wade through a ton of it to find what it's looking for.[/list]
Date: 11 Sep 2006 2:38 pm
Thank you Ramit,
I will now do that. I have not done that in years.....
I have and older G4 "lampshade style", the lcd screen on top of a half a volleyball.....a thing of beauty. The newer imac G5's are nice, still all in one, now up to 24" WOW, but they kinda look like an oven door. Mine is prettier.
I have a 80 gig HD, with only 7 gig left....also hooked up to a 320gig external HD, firewire/usb.
Once my son gets his powerbook, I will rip his stuff off, and tune things up a bit, cleaner, leaner and meaner.
Thanks, Frank D.
Date: 11 Sep 2006 3:31 pm
Let me know how it goes..
Well for having it for years and a 80gig hd, yea , that's packed pretty tight.
I can see why you have the external.
Do you have back ups of important things that are on your external HD?
A couple of folks I know have had bad luck with a few different brands.
I don't remember which ones for sure.
Heat seems to be an issue with some external HDs. No power switch, on all the time, small cases. They don't have the space and airflow a HD does that's in a computer case.
I have a 5year old IBM laptop 20gig hd, it's for travel for work. it's got the same 7 gig of space free your machine has - LOL, I struggle to keep it free of stuff. But of course it's not my main machine.
It's nearing retirement, too many miles are on it, it's showing it's age.
Date: 11 Sep 2006 4:13 pm
Thanks,
Yes, I do have back-ups of all important stuff. The external HD is an IOGEAR ION........
the next apple OS called leopard will have a feature called time machine, that will automatically archive and back up everything, and you will be able to retrieve by date, etc......supposed to be pretty cool. I'm guessing it will be out well before vista, but we'll see. Apple always charges only $79.00 student for full versions, so it is not too costly to upgrade.....we'll see if it will be worth it. last year's tiger OS is fine for me, but then, so was jaguar and before.....
Thanks!! Frank D.
Date: 11 Sep 2006 8:25 pm
It's amazing to me that we can get 5 years out of our machines now. Things seemed to go real quick from 8086(or what ever it was) to 286, 286 w/math, 386, 486. Then when the pentium stuff came out this constant upgrading being necessary seemed to slow down. I have a celeron 400 with 512 at home and it runs solidworks and stuff just fine. Yes, I notice a differece from the stuff at work but not a thousand dollars worth. The kids at work with game machines are always getting bigger and better, but maybe it is just the super fast graphics stuff that needs all the power because the 3d cad cam stuff has some real good graphics and way more math than the games seem to. But the newer machines seem to have a real easy time with the math and the full color motion pictures are the drain. Why can't the game kids just get super fast video cards with lots of ram and still use the same old machine?
Date: 11 Sep 2006 8:54 pm
The games require more processing power than any of the more common cad applications.
All the business software is soo benign now a days compared to gaming.
Not only are the games doing 3D rendering, they are doing more of it, they are also doing shadowing, calculations of 3d coordinates of all the other players, calculating damage and all the other things, like bullet trajectory and impact, will it hit something in between? how the players react while in water? Weather variables. Physics of a player's motions, physics of the enviroment and vehicles. The simulations are amazing.
The Army had tossed theirs and worked with a game designer to create a new simulator. And later commercialized it and gave it out for free as an online multiplayer game.. of course it's a recruitment tool to.
All while trying to produce it in vivid colors at 30 frames per second, the machine is trying to render nearly the entire environment during multiplayer play.. and changing shadowing and perspectives and how each player's move effects the others.
The games by far drive the technology of the machines now a days, not any of the business software.
They are looking to off load some of that math processing for the graphics onto a separate card now. A card has been developed, but software support in DirectX and such is lacking.
For the last 6 months, running Dual graphics cards, thats dual at $500 each graphics cards, is becoming main stream.
But they've found that the real bottle neck is the bus between the software/graphic cards/memory... So this second card I spoke about above is to off load some of that processing from the main cpu and get some of the data off of the bus and free up clock ticks.
Remember the old math co-processesing cards or plug in chips for the 286 and then 3/486 SXs?
My IBM laptop is 5 years old. Battle and road worn. It's a Pent III 800mhz, 20mghd, 512meg mem.. but at times that 512 thinks it's only 256.. seems to be either a bad memory socket or an associated connection on the mobo.
So it's gotta get replaced sooner or later. The other 256 coming and going is causing my only crashes.
Date: 12 Sep 2006 7:37 am
yup,
You guys are indeed right. I think we have gotten to the point that the computers can do more then the avgerage person really needs it to do. I mean, all I do is surf, e-mail, an word doc every so often, and manage my music, synchubg with my ipod.
My kids do video stuff and more, but the proof is that a 4 year old computer does everything I need it to.
I do "splurge" on the newest OS for Apple, just because it is usually cooler, and because it is there :D , and because it is only $79.00.
I do like some of the newer features with the new hardware, like built in tiny video camera on all of them now, backlit keys, two finger trackpads, sudden motion sensor, and the new magnetic A/C cord that won't drop your laptop if someone trips over the cord, etc,etc......but I do not NEED them.
Staying a few steps behind all the new stuff IS a lot cheaper.
Frank D.
Date: 12 Sep 2006 9:59 am
I hear ya, after 18months, when buying "X" version of a PC new, it's general down to 1/2 of what it was when it first came out.
We call it the bleeding edge of technology, in my field, it's due to the huge investment of time to get it all to work right since it's not tried/true/field proven.. in PC's and electronic gadgets - you just bleed money to keep up with the latest and the greatest leading (bleeding) edge stuff.
How much is the mac os without the student discount?
I know XP is a huge difference, studen price is about $80 - $95, but street price can be as much as $250.
With PCs, I like to keep the OS on the machine that came with it. If it works and is running good, why mess.
Getting a New machine with a new OS, you get new hardware and drivers that can take adventage of new "things" in the new OS...
Just dump the old apps software on there and the world is good.
Date: 12 Sep 2006 1:09 pm
Apples newest OS, called tiger could be bought anywhere for about $115.00,maybe even better. Student discounts are always $79.00.
Nice thing about Mac OS is that there are no "keys" or "codes" to type in, that apple watches.......You are supposed to be able to put it in I think 2 computers if you own them, but there is nothing other then conscience keeping you from putting it on any number of macs......
They are not even very picky on verifying student discounts....Apple has been upgrading their OS every year for the past few years....i'm on my 3rd one since I switched, and "leopard" will be out within a few months.....i'm guessing before vista....(not a slam at all, just a guess based on current articles.....)
Steve Jobs has shared SOME of the improvements, but is withholding some others.....the mindset amoung apple people is that Microsoft just copies everything cool apple invents, so why help them by showing everything it will do. apple innovates, microsoft imitates seems to be the thinking on the mac side.
I'm not saying I hold dear to that, just sharing what the mac community believes. Like the recent apple banner said Leopard 1.0 = Vista 2.0
Kinda cute. I am not knowledgeable enough on current things to know if all that is true. It is just interesting. It is amazing how apple can seem to keep HUGE products super secret until Steve jobs puuls it out of his pocket and says, "Oh, one more thing".........Like they did with the Nano.
NO ONE knew about it one day, the next day, you could buy it. Amazing.
Today, apple is supposed to announce some new stuff. The Mac world is holding their Breath.....
My apologies for going off topic...
Frank D.
Date: 12 Sep 2006 1:53 pm
Frank, it's just letting you test the "reply button" ... to see if it's fixed !
It all started when MS did steal two ideas to kick off windowz..
From Apple and I think the other was Zerox.
Not fiction.. that's for sure.
MS saw, and said yup, GUI will be the way OSs go next.. and off they went with the basis being stolen from those two companies.
I'm no defender of Billy.
I am SOOOO not looking forward to Vista.
If I have hardware still running 98se, and Vista is just going to come out, I think I'll replace with all XP pro hardware to live through the Visita period as long as I can.
I've seen the teir structure they have come up with for verions of Vista, and it's an abortion.
XP Home, Pro and Multimedia was simple enough , and it made sense to have those 3.. but what they'll do with Vista is insane.
Mac is too closed for me. I hate giving Billy my money.
And don't have time of Linux right now. The main stream is MS, and that's what I have to deal with day in and day out and I have soooo much software that still works fine in XP and I still use, back from even Dos days. Sure I have new stuff, but only if and when I need it.
Until XP, there wasn't real issues with registration, but yup, it's a pain. Even if you swap in a new mobo, you have a real great chance you'll have to call the kingdom to get your registration released. Some say it has a threshold of 3-5 variations being reported on your reg #, but I know folks that had it at 1, and they were playing no games.
There's many things MS has attempted todo lately, which looked like minor copies, as efforts to steal market shares, but bombed.
Even in the PC community, MS is being railed as not being innovative enough.
MS has been spending mega bucks on DRM with software and hardware to be in Vista, with working with the hollywood bigwigs. The OS will talk through new connectivity ports for monitors.. and not let the super HD version of a movie stream of the DRM isn't in place.
MS needs to spend less time with the hollywood bigwigs and more time on innovation. But they see the $$$ in the multimedia market and DRM.
Date: 12 Sep 2006 3:34 pm
Ramit,
My reply button is working great....!
i hear ya. Since i'm not "in the tech biz", I can exist happily within the kingdom of apple. I love my ipod, and the only thing windows I miss is that the windows version of PrintShop is better then the mac version. the lines seem to be getting a bit blurred though......
One can run windows on a newer mac, either with boot camp, or with the newer Parallels .........although there are companies that claim they have figured out somehow how to run windows apps WITHOUT having windows on your mac. Perhaps soon I will be able to have version 22 of PrintShop on my mac. I can't wait.
One thing that I do like about the apple Os is that when they come out, they just seem to work without alot if any bugs, crashes, etc.
On the apple website they are showing SOME of the newer features of Leopard........they are kind of neat. I'd value your opinion of them.......if not for anything else, it's a peek what Microsoft will come out with a year later...... :D
Today they just announced bigger better ipods and now selling movies on the itunes store. Soon that are comming out with a device to integrate the movies on your computer to show on your TV. Apple can now be on your desk, in your laptop bag, in your pocket (ipod), and now in your living room....
I appreciate your computer knowledge.......me, I just click, click, click.
Frank D.
Date: 12 Sep 2006 3:53 pm
Glad to hear the reply button is back to normal.
Yes, the intel based macs were a big leap forward, speed, cooling.
I've seen testing running some of the ms os emulators. steals too many clock ticks, and noticable on bigger, more demanding programs, up to 50% slower. But with that said, boot camp solves that problem.. running pure ms os if needed.
I never get 1.0 of anything, just don't trust it, aint got time to be their beta testing. And its not just MS doing it or in PCs.
That's the nice thing about the PC world, lots of options and lots of open source to use if needed. Which is what's attractive about linux, but there's just not enough standard in the business world for me to use it day in and day out.
I've heard that mac was going into multimedia more main stream.
That's the one place PCs ( I wont say MS) hardware has been for a while. Lost of stuff to stream TV to the PC for capture, storage and back again. Lost of great 3rd party apps. Now there's where MS is catching on, but with the DRM they have gotten into bed with the hollywood biggies, they're gonna make a mess of it. It's been just fine for the last 3 years, TV cards in the PC for even longer. But now MS is getting their mitts in it... in VISTA in a big way.. ugh