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Date: 3 Jan 2006 8:00 pm
we have lost any speed that we enjoyed on the forum.cant really give you a time frame and its very slow on the home and work computer.
if it was just 1 i would not care much but its both .
it has been so slow that it kinda annoys me and its very hard to post on anything.
i havent been my usuall posting self infact.
i can sometime read whats going on but when i sign in...oh my its worse than a yahoo tractor group that i belong to and thats bad.
both the computers are on high speed cable and other places visited are pretty good.
is there any help for us or are we going to have to get an alarm clock to wake us when the page refreshes.
chris
Date: 4 Jan 2006 9:10 am
snowshoveler wrote:
we have lost any speed that we enjoyed on the forum.cant really give you a time frame and its very slow on the home and work computer.
if it was just 1 i would not care much but its both .
it has been so slow that it kinda annoys me and its very hard to post on anything.
i havent been my usuall posting self infact.
i can sometime read whats going on but when i sign in...oh my its worse than a yahoo tractor group that i belong to and thats bad.
both the computers are on high speed cable and other places visited are pretty good.
is there any help for us or are we going to have to get an alarm clock to wake us when the page refreshes.
chris
Chris,
I've noticed it too.
I have to say that at times I noticed certain other sites as slow and other times I've not.
After the first slow down, we cleaned out the cobwebs.
It seemed to help.
2nd time I did all the maintance again, saw some improvement.
This last time, no problems were noted during the cleanup and the slowness continues to be spotty, as reported in general.
Some others have reported it only to be periods of time, such has I've seen. But to be constantly slow as your seeing is a bit different. I'm not saying the cause is different, just more input.
Are you saying it's slower after you log in?
What's the slow point for you?
After hitting the submit button?
Loading forum areas and topics?
I've made some other tweaks last night.
I want to give it a bit more time
I'm gonna give it another week and see how things go.
If not, I'll prune some more out of the General discussion database and see how that goes.
Date: 4 Jan 2006 10:51 am
ramit wrote:
Are you saying it's slower after you log in?
What's the slow point for you?
After hitting the submit button?
Loading forum areas and topics?
I've made some other tweaks last night.
I want to give it a bit more time
I'm gonna give it another week and see how things go.
If not, I'll prune some more out of the General discussion database and see how that goes.
Okay, so I'm not Chris, but ahhhh, heck close enough. Before logging in I make sure that the history, cache and cookies are all cleaned up. (allows us to see what's been read by the other after signing in) Browsing through the place is slow, but after logging in it's like Chris said, it's like hitting a brick wall. The slow point is going from topic to topic, forum to forum, hitting the reply button, hitting the submit button.
We've been doing inventory at the shop and I do my usual thing sign in in the morning, but then I close the browser and off to work I go and checking back every once in a while when I can.
I hope this answers some of the questions that you asked and I hope they sound right to Chris.
Sherri
Date: 4 Jan 2006 11:14 am
Sherri, thanks.
Right at this moment, I've flying around the boards.
Early this morning, I can say I saw the same problem, once I logged in, going betweent the forums and replying was slower.
I just posted two replies and it was fine.
So for you and Chris, your not finding any part of the day that's better?
And when logged in, for either of you, is when it just boggs down? as I understand it.. right?
Date: 4 Jan 2006 11:45 am
ramit wrote:
Sherri, thanks.
Right at this moment, I've flying around the boards.
Early this morning, I can say I saw the same problem, once I logged in, going betweent the forums and replying was slower.
I just posted two replies and it was fine.
So for you and Chris, your not finding any part of the day that's better?
And when logged in, for either of you, is when it just boggs down? as I understand it.. right?
I've had a rare few moents today that the board was relatively the speed I think it should be. But Chris was just on several seconds ago without being logged in and it took him forever to get from the home screen to the forum page and then to load this page up.
If I can manage to hit a zippy time, it's only that way for 1 page load up, then it's back to our normal speed, slower then normal.
It does seem to be that when we are logged in that the site runs slower. But I do clean the cache, cookies and history out of the computer at home after every visit, so that we can read things the other read when signed in. Would this have anything to do with the speed at home? Having to load everything fresh every visit?
Sherri
Date: 4 Jan 2006 12:05 pm
I'm still chewing on it and taking more input.
But one thing that's running through my head about you and Chris is that you both log in and log out (and I'm just talking out load here...)
There's something called Session ID's (given to you by the forum) that are tied to the IP address (given to you by your ISP).
The cookies and session ID's last for about a day.
The log in is valid for about an hour.
So if you log in as one user with the same IP, you get one session number. If you quickly log out, and Chris logs in he's given a new session number, but in the mean time your old one is still "valid" for the same IP address. The forum has to refigure everything out. While clearing your cache and cookies are a good thing, you have no way to do that for the forum.
I've been thinking if that's a problem and if there's something I can do to effect that. It's running circles right now in my mind.
But you and Chris aren't the only one seeing a slow down.
I've had a couple of times where the slow down went away for me after I attempted to log out, the log out was taking forever.. so I just closed my browswer.
Waited a bit, didn't clear anything like you've been doing ( which what your doing is goodness) , open a new browser session and all is fine.
I've also seen that google has been spending a ton of time attempting to crawl the actual forum. Which is not very good, since it will get a lot of errors and spend a lot of time poking at things it doesn't need to. So I've made some changes to stop google from looking at things that will give it headaches in the forum. Having google poking at the forum areas is like having another 20 users on the forum.
Again just another possibility. It will take a few days for the change to take effect. So I don't want to change too many things at the same time.
Two weeks ago, google had visted us 6 times, after this week we are up to 73 times! The ole' good news/bad news, I think.
So I'm trying to tie the different inputs together.
I think you and Chris have explained it well, for what you both are seeing and I understand it.
I'm taking more input, either through here as people post or PMs.
Please be patient, I'm gonna give it another two days to see if the google changes help. In the mean time, more input and more research and more running in cirlces in my mind.
Date: 4 Jan 2006 12:44 pm
P.S. Just a few more thoughts to keep in mind.
Let me not forget to say, that to a point, the bigger the forum gets with topics and replies to those topics.. there will be some slow down.
The forum will be it's fastest when it has no threads and no topics.
It doesn't have todo with the amount of topics being shown on the the webpage you are viewing, it has todo with how much information the software has to sort through to show you what you want to see.
The more users that are online at the same time, the slower any forum will be as well.
Same for posting, the more replies, the more topics, the bigger the database, the more info the forum software needs to sort through to figure out where and how to add the new info. And if there are 3 people attempting to answer the same topic, the forum software has to figure out how to straighten out the traffic jam of info hanging out there.
So I know we'll see some sorta slowdown, based on how the amount of posts and users online.
But to a degree, it should be consistent.
If no one else is on except for you, the experience should be the same from session to session during the day.
Date: 7 Jan 2006 1:52 pm
I think it's much better now?
Please see how it all goes....
Date: 7 Jan 2006 3:57 pm
It seems to be working good here for me. :clap: With my luck I just jinxed it though.
Sherri
Date: 7 Jan 2006 8:52 pm
LOL..
YOUR LUCK..
I thought that black cloud just hung over me !! LOL
Date: 8 Jan 2006 7:51 pm
snowshoveler wrote:
we have lost any speed that we enjoyed on the forum.cant really give you a time frame and its very slow on the home and work computer.
if it was just 1 i would not care much but its both .
it has been so slow that it kinda annoys me and its very hard to post on anything.
i havent been my usuall posting self infact.
i can sometime read whats going on but when i sign in...oh my its worse than a yahoo tractor group that i belong to and thats bad.
both the computers are on high speed cable and other places visited are pretty good.
is there any help for us or are we going to have to get an alarm clock to wake us when the page refreshes.
chris
Wake up sleepyhead. It seems pretty fast to me, how are you two doing?
Date: 9 Jan 2006 4:37 pm
Was doing good all day at work. But since I'm home it seems to have hit a brick wall.
Sherri
Date: 9 Jan 2006 4:45 pm
just browsing topic to topic in general?
Or hitting submit?
Date: 9 Jan 2006 4:53 pm
ramit wrote:
just browsing topic to topic in general?
Or hitting submit?
I honestly think that shoveler is the jinx. I was reading in the OPE section trying to get from one topic to another and it went well, then he came over and everything seemed to come to a stand still. It took me give or take the better part of a minute so I could get back to the main page to scroll down to see how many were on line. There were only 5 - 2 online, 2 hidden and 1 guest. Then I waited so I could get here and give the typing a whirl. It seems to have speeded up somewhat, but not as good as it was this morning on the same computer (before work). After I typed my message I hit submit and got up and went to the fridge, got myself a drink and came back in time to see the page pop up where you can go back to the forum or go back to your post. So I'm almost back to where I started. *sigh*
Sherri
PS - could it be the ancient dinosaur that we call a computer?
Date: 9 Jan 2006 4:57 pm
It could be the old mouse aint running as fast as it use to in the wheel.
Honestly, I've been finding it very good, with only maybe an initial delay getting in once or twice. But I've seen the same thing on other phpBB forums.
Date: 9 Jan 2006 5:03 pm
ramit wrote:
It could be the old mouse aint running as fast as it use to in the wheel.
Honestly, I've been finding it very good, with only maybe an initial delay getting in once or twice. But I've seen the same thing on other phpBB forums.
I think the old mouse is prehistoric given the age of the rest of the machine. :D But at work the site worked real good all day, not that I was visiting that much - still suck doing inventory.
Sherri
Date: 9 Jan 2006 5:12 pm
Still on inventory,, awh that bites. Been there, but we usually got it done over a weekend. Being a factory, closed for the weekend and got all hands on deck and knocked it out. Something I'm sure being the business yours is, cant be done.
I've been on and off and have caught a slow down.
It should be consistant..... so if its your pc at home , than it should be slow all the time.
I do expect every once in a while, from what I've seen on other phpBB forums, that something might be slower for a moment or two, and then be fine. But those hangups we saw and stalls, just weren't right, as we now know for sure.
Date: 10 Jan 2006 3:07 pm
At work the site works great. It has a few hiccups, say when I have multiple pages open and am flipping back and forth between them all, but that's to be expected.
Now if it will stay the way after I get home...
Sherri
Date: 10 Jan 2006 3:13 pm
yea few pages open at the same time play havic on your system rescources and tossing cookies around ...
I've seen a few yawns while switching pages. but staying behaved.
Only the same delays I've seen on other phpBB forums.
So I'm happy so far.
Any progress on shopping for a new 'puter for home?
Date: 10 Jan 2006 4:31 pm
I was bouncing back and forth between price lists, inventory lists, parts look ups and the list goes on...the end result everything was sluggish. But I expected that.
Well I will soon have the funds saved up for a new computer, so hopefully in the not so distant future there will be a shiny new machine sitting here. I can hardly wait! Still have no idea what we will be getting though or from where.
Sherri
Date: 10 Jan 2006 4:43 pm
yea thats the hard part.
You have broadband at home?
but an ancient machine?
That's like buying a new sports car and having polyester tires in it !
I'm sure you'll be one happy camper with a new machine at home.
Date: 10 Jan 2006 5:51 pm
Yuppers, a happy camper I will be! This computer doesn't support most games that I try to play online. I can play Text Twist fine, but anything other then that and I'm in trouble and most videos I have to play twice to get them to load and play through all the way. :shock:
But this site seems to be wroking well for now - just jixed myself again...
Sherri